Lady Astrel
Это те две огромные статуи, гигантские саангреалы, у которых были "пульты управления" или даже "удалённые терминалы" - две статуэтки мужчины и женщины. Мужскую статую Ранд видел, когда попал в Каэрхен, вроде когда двигался по Путям, но тут не точно. Женская статуя была где-то в ебенях у Морского Народа. При очистке расплавился именно терминал.

Найнив - она ж была Мудрой в селе, пошла в целительницы и была самой мощной из них. Престолом стала Эгвейн - бывшая девушка/невеста Ранда. Кстати, то что они в сериале весело ебались - это ещё один пиздец, от которого мне понадобилось прикладывать бифштекс к лицу.

Тощий Бетон_вторая итерация
Эгвейн: "Подержи моё пиво!"

Desmоnd

Ты чё, там же вся арка Ранда в первом сезоне сводится к тому, что он периодически подкатывает к Эгвейн с вопросом "так раз ты больше не будешь учиться на Мудрую, то мы снова сможем сну-сну", а она его отшивает. А пред лицом ребе Ишамаэля он таки осознал, что она его не хочет!


"Access keys" их называли, я точно помню)

Desmоnd

Я щас прямо коммент занесу.
"As far as the male-female thing, the greater role of women in the story is right there on the page from the beginning, even though it is shown exclusively through the perspective of a young male. And they manage to do it without weakening the men. It's obvious from the get-go that women wield power in this village, but there is a Mayor and a Village Council that are at least the equal of the Wisdom and Women's Circle. What we see on the show makes the Wisdom look like a ceremonial position. All she does is perform part of the ceremony of adulthood, reciting the nonsensical creed while someone else braids Egwene's hair. Then she pushes her off the cliff. Why? What does this mean? What does it prove? How does Egwene pass instead of failing? Why do we need a lecture on the significance of the hairstyle, instead of and explanation of what Egwene is being tested for? Since this is one of two things we see Nynaeve doing as Wisdom, maybe knowing something about it would help us understand her and the town?
The other thing we saw Nynaeve doing was scrubbing the rocks of a "sacred pool". In a series whose author explicitly stated there is no organized religion. No explanation is given as to the sacred nature of the pool, or what it means to anyone but Nynaeve. An equally valid interpretation of her exposition in that scene is that she is desperately trying to establish herself as a legitimate member of the community, feeling apart and isolated due to her being a fostered orphan from somewhere else, so she undertakes even the most stupidly obscure traditional duties to prove she is just as much a Two Rivers woman as anyone else. There is a writing reason for the pool scene, which will be revealed in a future episode, and it is deeply stupid.

Meanwhile, we don't get to see Nynaeve demonstrating through her conflicts with the male authority figures that she is their peer. We see no sign of any male authority figures, so there is no one to show respect to Nynaeve as the Mayor in the books shuts down the cranks who complain that she is not being respectful enough to them, or for Tam to explain to Rand that it's not personal, just a function of their jobs that put the Mayor and Wisdom into conflict. And because Tam & the Mayor explain their handling of the issues with the gleeman and the peddler, we can see that the male authority figures know what they are doing, and this village where the women have comparable power is rather well-led. We also see that the village cares about its members and they stand together and look out for each other. The sort of place where a husband philandering while his wife crawls into a bottle and their young daughters are neglected would not be tolerated. In the books, moral issues like this are the purview of the Wisdom, so with the knowledge of this sphere of authority, if you think they are the same, Nynaeve looks even worse.

Also, Nynaeve has medical skill and ethics. We see in how she handles the sick & injured after the attack on the village that she understands sanitation (keeping the injured apart), hygiene (keeping her & Egwene's hands clean) and triage (leaving Tam, because she can't do anything for him, to treat patients whom she can help). She makes a flat statement of her medical ethics to Lan that she would never do anything to hurt Moiraine with her medicines and she also tells her patients what she is doing. in the show she is not allowed to treat anyone successfully, she gets dragged away for a dumb fight scene to justify her nonsense with cleaning the sacred pool (establishing her familiarity with the ground to explain her successful ambush). She also extorts compliance by threatening to withhold medical treatment and refuses to tell what she is doing"

И тогда она ещё не Исцеляла по площадям и не хватала меч. чтобы в момент победить двух Стражей на тренировке.

Desmоnd
По-моему, это просто как мы в процессе анализа шедевров Гхастера.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU_xDYhoHzw

Тощий Бетон_вторая итерация
штобляяяяяя?
Нет, не хочу знать.

Desmоnd

Школа Рей Скайпатин и копетана Марвел, не иначе.

Тощий Бетон_вторая итерация
Тут в очередной раз хуеешь, как в попытке сделать "сильную женщину" персонаж, который изначально был "сильной женщиной из палаты мер и весов" (там у всех характер ояебу), превращается в ебаную никчемность, которой шевелит рука автора (тут сценариста и режиссёра) в жопе.

Desmоnd

Причём настолько же никчёмность, насколько и целенаправленно опускаемые мужики.

Тощий Бетон_вторая итерация
Desmоnd
Вы сейчас с кем и про что разговаривали?

кукурузник
Про Колесо времени Роберта Джордана и про его недавнюю экранизацию в стиле нашего любимого ГХА.

Я всегда мечтал увидеть годную высокобюджетную экранизацию "Мира Тьмы", но теперь чёт не хочу...

voss22
Ну, мне а свое время вполне зашёл Kindred. Жаль, что старый, да и не досняли до конца.

О, насчёт МТ. Ты Несгибаемый от Птицы в Шляпе не читал? ГГ полный ублюдок, что не скрывает, попадает в Гарри Поттера, но при этом магический мир - часть Мира Тьмы.

voss22

И бюджет попилят.

Нейросетки, делающие видео и энтузиасты произведения - может тогда даже нормальный гп посмотрим!

Samus2001

С канонным Снейпом!)

Тощий Бетон_вторая итерация

Ага и нормальным Роном!

Samus2001
Тощий Бетон_вторая итерация
Зато прикиньте, сколько фанонных будет. С башингом, собачками, жронами, еблями на алтарях и арыстократами.

Desmоnd

Возможно, даже ЭП с Кумпаньоном...

Desmоnd

Гыгыгы)
"You forgot racist. You clearly only have a problem with the show because they cast black actors to play Nynaeve, Perrin and especially, those eternal fan favorites, Padan Fain, Eamon Valda and Aram. Everyone loves those last three and can't stand seeing black actors in those roles. You really resent that black people can watch this show and aspire to be an idiot who killed his wife by mistake, or a healer who is shown wielding weapons far more often than herbs on screen, and not actually curing a single person on the show with her healing knowledge, or that they now can see themselves being as morally upstanding and heroic as Fain or Valda, or as stable as Aram. Well you can just eat your MAGA hat, because Rafe Judkins is here to give heroes to black people and women and polyamorous bisexuals who like to gain new sexual partners against said partners' will, whether you like it or not!"